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Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Saturday June 20, 2009 11:42 pm

Greetings, fellow lifeforms.

The forum now has a wiki, here.

Discuss.

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Seriously though, I thought it would be a nice place, for members to put up various things. Like guides, image galleries, personal member pages, or whatever. Go wild ^^.

I mainly ask that you try to keep it semi-organised. For example, if you add a member page for yourself, don't put it right inside the main page >_>. Rather make a section for member pages, link that section from the main page, and then link your personal page from the member listing page.

If in doubt, ask here and I or someone else familiar with editing wikis will setup the section for you, so you just need to edit an existing page rather than adding links and organising sections.

You can read more about how to edit the wiki pages here.

If you make new pages, or interesting updates, it would be nice if you mention it on the forum so we can discuss and give feedback ^^.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Eleinia » Sunday June 21, 2009 12:13 am

Nice... question: How do I create a new page?

Nevermind, I think I have figured it out.

Edit: Added a new page with a collection of my gifs.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Deciare » Sunday June 21, 2009 12:22 am

wizzardx wrote:Greetings, fellow lifeforms.

The forum now has a wiki, here.

Discuss.

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Cute. XD

And speaking of cute~ I like the name you chose for the it. A Reyvateil's Wiki. ^_^ Mir and I have discussed, on and off, what we might do with a wiki for Reyvateils, or even a section of Wikipedia written entirely in Hymmnos. There is so much revealing personal information about Reyvateils online, including our Hymn Codes and innermost insecurities <.<, but nothing about humans that might warn us about what we'd be getting into when we partner with certain people or join certain organisations. So we thought it'd be neat for a wiki to contain information relevant to Reyvateils... Also things like how to apply Diquility as painlessly as possible, differences between what a Reyvateil's digestive system considers edible versus what humans consider edible, understanding how Mind Guardians relate to you in everyday life, and such...

It's a shame that there's so little canonical information that explores the world of Ar Ciel and its many, many intricate details from a Reyvateil's perspective.

Eleinia wrote:Nice... question: How do I create a new page?

To anyone else who might have the same question: visit a page that doesn't already exist, and it'll offer to let you create one.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Dexas » Sunday June 21, 2009 12:32 am

nyahaha. I can already tell who'll have a field day with this.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby 奈落天魔 » Sunday June 21, 2009 12:39 am

Great idea! =D I'll make a page for myself among other things as well in the future. If you want to make a page for me however then go ahead.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Phira-tan » Sunday June 21, 2009 1:01 am

Hahaha field day indeed. I might join in the fray once I feel all calm and light headed again
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 1:16 am

Eleinia wrote:Nice... question: How do I create a new page?

Nevermind, I think I have figured it out.

Edit: Added a new page with a collection of my gifs.


Nice page ^^.

How I usually add links, is:

1. Add a non-existant link on an an existing page, eg:

[Frelia's Fantastic Forest]

2. Click on the new link, then edit and save the new page.

Deciare wrote:And speaking of cute~ I like the name you chose for the it. A Reyvateil's Wiki. ^_^ Mir and I have discussed, on and off, what we might do with a wiki for Reyvateils


It was "Reyvawiki" before, but I changed it to "A Reyvateil's Wiki" for lulz ^^.

And, you and Mir are welcome to add articles like that if you feel like it. The more stuff like that that gets added, the better ^^. I'd like the wiki to become a part of our home, like the forum software.

Dexas wrote:nyahaha. I can already tell who'll have a field day with this.


I'm looking forwards to seeing what kind of stuff people add ^^.

奈落天魔 wrote:Great idea! =D I'll make a page for myself among other things as well in the future. If you want to make a page for me however then go ahead.


I've added a page for you, here ^^. It's also reachable from the main page.

(Actually, Wiki users already have a page setup for them by the software when they join. I'd suggest using that page instead, once you sign up. That way, when people click on your name in the Wiki they'll see your member page).

infel_phira wrote:Hahaha field day indeed. I might join in the fray once I feel all calm and light headed again


Have fun ^^.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Utsuho Lazy » Sunday June 21, 2009 5:24 am

*Is a total n00b when it comes to Wiki-related systems*

Maybe I'll just sit and watch this from afar .__.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby 奈落天魔 » Sunday June 21, 2009 10:03 am

wizzardx wrote:I've added a page for you, here ^^. It's also reachable from the main page.


Oh my! Thank you Wizz! ^_^
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Utsuho Lazy » Sunday June 21, 2009 10:07 am

Oh, almost forgot, I can has putting up Hymn translations on teh Kiwi?
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 10:23 am

Giulietta Simone Del Viscontie wrote:*Is a total n00b when it comes to Wiki-related systems*

Maybe I'll just sit and watch this from afar .__.


It's pretty simple really. About the same difficulty level as using bbcode on the forum. The main difference is that anyone can edit the articles, not just the creator and moderators. You can ask here if you have any questions.

奈落天魔 wrote:Oh my! Thank you Wizz! ^_^


np ^^. I'm looking forwards to seeing your updated member page ^_^.

Giulietta Simone Del Viscontie wrote:Oh, almost forgot, I can has putting up Hymn translations on teh Kiwi?


Sure, go for it, that's what the wiki is for ^^. If it helps, I can post a couple of your hymn translations up on the wiki, and then you can tidy those up and add additional ones. Just give me a couple of links to your posts, and I'll upload them to the wiki.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Utsuho Lazy » Sunday June 21, 2009 10:29 am

wizzardx wrote:If it helps, I can post a couple of your hymn translations up on the wiki, and then you can tidy those up and add additional ones. Just give me a couple of links to your posts, and I'll upload them to the wiki.


Oh, okay. For example here's the translation for Implanta: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=135

Could you please post it? Then maybe I'll have a hint on how to do it...

Also, will the Wiki divide the translations to three sections - AT1, AT2 and others - like the main site?
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 11:44 am

Giulietta Simone Del Viscontie wrote:Could you please post it? Then maybe I'll have a hint on how to do it...


I've posted it here. It's also reachable from the main page (Hymn translations -> METHOD_IMPLANTA/.)

The main unusual thing about the wiki markup in that article, is the "<pre>" and "</pre>" opening and closing tags. I added those, because otherwise the wiki wants to format the text itself, which looks really ugly >_>. "pre" is short for "preformatted"

If you want to add new Hymns, here is what you should do:

1. Create a user account for yourself on the wiki, here.

2. Go to the main Hymn listing page, here.

3. Click on the Edit button on the top of the screen.

You'll get a box that has text like this:

Code:  [ Select all ]
==Ar tonelico 2==

*[[METHOD_IMPLANTA|METHOD_IMPLANTA/.]]


Quick explanation:

  • "==Ar tonelico 2==" makes a section in the page. Sections are very useful for organizing information, especially on longer articles.
  • A "*" at the start of the line makes it a bullet point. Nice for putting things in a list. Just add more lines below with stars in front to add items to the list.
  • [single square brackets] are for an external link
  • [[double square brackets]] are for an internal link
  • That weird pipe, "|", in the middle, means that the text before it is the article name, and the text after it is the description. I had to use "|" in this case, since the wiki doesn't like having "/" in article names for technical reasons, but I still wanted it to show the correct name of the Hymn for people to click on.

4. Add a link for the new hymn. eg, afterwards the text box might look like this:

Code:  [ Select all ]

==Ar tonelico 1==

*[[EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY|EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/.]]

==Ar tonelico 2==

*[[METHOD_IMPLANTA|METHOD_IMPLANTA/.]]


5. Click Preview, to check your changes.

6. Click on the "Save Page" button at the bottom of the page.
(technically you should also add a summary before saving, but it's not required)

The page will refresh (congrats, you've made your first wiki update ^^). You'll see a red link on the page. The red means that the link is broken (the destination article doesn't exist yet).

7. Click on the broken link.

This will take you to a page where you can edit a new article. For reference, you can copy and paste in the text I already added for the first hymn. Just click on the "edit" button for the first hymn, and then copy and paste my wiki code into your new article.

8. Delete the part between <pre> and </pre>

9. Copy and paste in the new Hymn, from your forum posting.

10. Use Preview to check your new hymn.

11. Make any other relevant changes to the article

12. Click Save Page (now you've added a new Hymn to the wiki ^^).

Giulietta Simone Del Viscontie wrote:Also, will the Wiki divide the translations to three sections - AT1, AT2 and others - like the main site?


Wiki's usually don't have a hierarchy, with one article "under" another. They are all "on the top level". But, it is easy to organise them, by making articles which list them in various sub-sections (like with the "Ar tonelico 1" and "Ar tonelico 2" sections in my example above).

Feel free to organise your Hymn translations or other parts of the wiki according to AT1/AT2/others/etc, if you feel it will be more tidy that way.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby L-Voss » Sunday June 21, 2009 11:44 am

Wow, Wizzard, you're awesome! Not sure whether I'll ever use this or not but it certainly can come in handy to many people here. Good job!
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 11:55 am

L-Voss wrote:Wow, Wizzard, you're awesome! Not sure whether I'll ever use this or not but it certainly can come in handy to many people here. Good job!


A couple of things you could use it for, if you need ideas ^_^;
  • Polish/etc translations
  • Keeping track of your alien clan members
  • Member page for yourself, where you list the phases of your evolution, with pics ^^;
  • Information about Soopians, and random soup-related things
  • Shao Kahn worship ^^
You get the idea xD.

Basically, the wiki is like your own personal website, but easy to edit and shared with everyone else on the forum ^^.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby L-Voss » Sunday June 21, 2009 11:58 am

wizzardx wrote:[list][*]Polish/etc translations


Lol, there are no other Polish fans of At. xD At least, none that I know of. :-P

But the others... sound tempting. Thank you for those ideas. xD
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 12:57 pm

L-Voss wrote:Lol, there are no other Polish fans of At. xD At least, none that I know of. :-P


I actually meant your other Polish etc translations, not necessarily At-related stuff, Assuming you don't already have a better home for them online ^_^.

Stuff on the Wiki doesn't have to stick to the topic of At stuff (unlike for example the Ar Tonelico Wiki). It's meant to be a place where forum members can put things which interest them. Basically, like the forum, but in Wiki format ^^.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby Utsuho Lazy » Sunday June 21, 2009 1:01 pm

...Oh my poor brain.

I'll start exploring when I have the courage to .__.
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby L-Voss » Sunday June 21, 2009 1:21 pm

wizzardx wrote:
L-Voss wrote:Lol, there are no other Polish fans of At. xD At least, none that I know of. :-P


I actually meant your other Polish etc translations, not necessarily At-related stuff, Assuming you don't already have a better home for them online ^_^.


I do. :-P But maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to post them there. Hmm, I'll see about that. ^^'
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Re: Wiki for the forum

Postby wizzardx » Sunday June 21, 2009 1:28 pm

Giulietta Simone Del Viscontie wrote:...Oh my poor brain.

I'll start exploring when I have the courage to .__.


It probably only seems that way because of the mind-numbing detail I went into. You don't want to see my instructions for making peanut butter sandwiches >_>.
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