Progress report

[void]

It's really annoying that a load of text is hidden in the exes. Do we have any means of putting the text back in them once it's modified, or is that reliant on Cless?

I think the talk topics are probably the most important thing there (and likely a massive chunk of work). It's pretty jarring playing the game with the beautiful modified text, then leaping into a talk topic where the girls are speaking NISA XD

[aquagon]

It's really annoying that a load of text is hidden in the exes. Do we have any means of putting the text back in them once it's modified, or is that reliant on Cless?

I think the talk topics are probably the most important thing there (and likely a massive chunk of work). It's pretty jarring playing the game with the beautiful modified text, then leaping into a talk topic where the girls are speaking NISA XD

That will be reliant on Cless. After all, he's our specialist on text menu stuff. And after I finish with Sasha's events, maybe I'll contact him to dump the text from the Talk Topics to begin with Jakuri's.

And as something else related to the project, I'm beginning to think that we'll have to find ourselves a new graphics editor.

[Soukyuu]

And as something else related to the project, I'm beginning to think that we'll have to find ourselves a new graphics editor.

I've been lurking here ever since i started playing AT2, wondering if and how I could help.
I have experience with de-texting images and other image manipulations, what exactly is needed in this case?

If you need to test me, feel free to give me something to edit.

[aquagon]

I've been lurking here ever since i started playing AT2, wondering if and how I could help.
I have experience with de-texting images and other image manipulations, what exactly is needed in this case?

If you need to test me, feel free to give me something to edit.

Basically, we need to change names that are stored as graphics, so they match with the names we chose for the retranslation (examples: Luca's surname to Trulywaath in the status menu graphics, Sea of Nam to Sea of Num in Jakuri's Cosmosphere, and some others).

As for a test, how about editing the phase title in this image to "Infel Phira Dependency"?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v29/t ... RPKZ6A.png

[Soukyuu]

Should be doable:



Is it known which font the game uses for CGs?
I had to trace every letter to vector shapes for this one, which isn't a problem if the letter is available somewhere...

[aquagon]

Whoa, it looks pretty well!
As for the font, I remember fetjuel saying something about there being a font for the phase splash screens, and save screens (like the one you just made). However, for the other things, like character names and location names, I think there isn't an actual font.

[Soukyuu]

Ok, then I will just keep vector-tracing them. As you probably noticed, that makes them look slightly different, but it should be close enough.
I could start right away if you want me to, but I never worked on a project like this before so I'd be grateful if you could point me to some sort of organizational guide or something (where/how to get raws of pictures etc).

[aquagon]

It looks close enough to the original, it's no problem.
And I'll need a little of time to sort the other graphics that need modifications, since after the wiki in which we had them listed fell, we lost that information.

EDIT: Ok, here are all the images that need editing, and also, here are some notes in each file:

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ATLAS_MOJI1_1

Telmina -> Termina

The Slums -> Slums

I.P.D. Labs -> IPD Labs

ATLAS_MOJI1_2

Grand Bell Prisons -> Grand Bell Prison

GBH Mother Ship -> GB Mothership

ATLAS_MOJI1_3

Sky Plains -> Celestial Plains

Gaea: xx -> Deathlandia: xx

ATLAS_MOJI1_4

Gaea: xx -> Deathlandia: xx

AT2_PARTS

Jacqli -> Jakuri

MWM_PLACE1_1

Travel Basket -> Inn

Leyka Ward -> Reika Ward


MWM_PLACE1_2

Sea of Nam -> Sea of Num

Note: The MWM_PLACE2_X files also have these place names, but it's unknown if they have any effect on the game.

Note: The IPD_NAME_X files have the name for all the IPDs. We have to finalize the decision on their names before
thinking in doing any modifications to them.

IPD_RADAR

I.P.D. -> IPD

AT2_NAME1

Grandfather -> Old Man

Uncle X -> Man

Pippen X -> Pepen

Auntie X -> Woman

Grandmother -> Old Woman

Pippippen -> Penpepe

AT2_NAME2

I.P.D. -> IPD

Big Sis -> Young Woman

Big Bro -> Young Man

AT2_NAME3

Goro -> Gengoro (only if it's possible to make it fit).

Heart of Gaea -> Heart of the Land

AT2_MOJI3

Replakia Catalog -> Replekia Catalog

AT2_MOJI5

Gaea -> Deathlandia

AT2_COMPOUND

General: Mewmew Shop -> General: Nya Nya Ya

Restauranta: Bon Beltan -> Restaurant: Bon Beltan

GBH Warrant Weapons Dealer: Tsuruya -> GB Official Weapon Shop: Tsuruya

AT2_SONG_P1:

Jacqli -> Jakuri

AT2_SONG_P3:

Rec. Burst -> Burst Requirement

AT2_MOJI:

Catalog -> Encyclopedia

Tark -> Talk

AT2_S_NAME:

Luca Trulyworth -> Luca Trulywaath

Jacqli -> Jakuri

Cloche Leythal Pastalia -> Cloche Leythal Pastalie

AT2_DIVER_P5:

I.P.D. -> IPD

Psyche Inflammation -> Psychoinflammation

AT2_DIVER_P7:

I.P.D. -> IPD

TOWN_MOJI2:

The Slums -> Slums

TOWN_NAME1:

I.P.D. Labs -> IPD Labs

Sky Plains -> Celestial Plains

TOWN_NAME2:

I.P.D. Labs -> IPD Labs

dei_txx:

Chroche Latel Pastaie -> Cloche Leythal Pastalie

Luca Trulyworth -> Luca Trulywaath

Also, here is the information you might need for dealing with these images (since they all are in either TIM or TIM2 format).

http://oldarm.isisview.org/graphics-editing-t967.html

[Soukyuu]

Ok, now the only things i need are the tools to get the images out of RPK.bin, the links in the wiki backup are dead.

[aquagon]

Ah, sorry. I intended to add a link to all these images in my last post, but it seems I overlooked it accidentally. The link is in there now.

[Soukyuu]

Oh ok. I probably should test-edit something to make sure the way I do it doesn't break display ingame.
Is it ok to post progress updates here or should I post them in Kari's graphic editing thread?

[aquagon]

It'd be better that you post them in the graphics edit thread.

[void]

Welcome Soukyuu!

A general comment, most of those name changes should be fine, since they're smaller or the same length, but one thing to consider is to fit longer ones into the same pixel boundaries you'd have to shrink the text size, which could make some names look inconsistent (or worse, harder to read) in comparison to others. In some cases like the Gaea: xx -> Deathlandia: xx one it's probably best just to drop the unnecessary prefix.

[Soukyuu]

Welcome Soukyuu!

A general comment, most of those name changes should be fine, since they're smaller or the same length, but one thing to consider is to fit longer ones into the same pixel boundaries you'd have to shrink the text size, which could make some names look inconsistent (or worse, harder to read) in comparison to others. In some cases like the Gaea: xx -> Deathlandia: xx one it's probably best just to drop the unnecessary prefix.

I already ran into resizing problems, so yeah I'm going to probably do that once I reach that image (going through them alphabetically). Or maybe I'll try to squeeze them into a double-liner, depending on how it'll look.
I wish someone could find a way to change those boundaries so we don't run into such issue.

Thanks for the welcome

[aquagon]

By the way, this is related to the item names as well:

I just finished translating the dialog for the Dress Up Book/Fashion Illustrated recipe, and it's basically about it being made from a collection of stylish dress pictures that Sasha had. Maybe we'd really need to tweak the name for the recipe...

[Soukyuu]

Just making sure,

ATLAS_MOJI1_1

Telmina -> Termina

Isn't it supposed to be "Terminal"?

[aquagon]

Just making sure,

ATLAS_MOJI1_1

Telmina -> Termina

Isn't it supposed to be "Terminal"?

I suggested the same during the initial stages of this project, but I was shot down with this argument:

Doesn't look like it. The JP script says テルミナ (terumina). Terminal is ターミナル (ta-minaru).

-Morgan.

Here is the original post: http://oldarm.isisview.org/decision-on- ... 51-60.html

[Soukyuu]

Hmm, according to this, it could mean "railway station building" in Japanese, but "Termina" is not a word in English (afaik).
And that meaning doesn't fit here... But meh, since it would have been ターミナル if they meant "Terminal"... I guess I should just accept things decided long before I came here lol

edit: btw, I'm curious how you guys plan to handle the Soraneko/Umineko pun? I didn't get the English version of it at all and only realized it recently when I reverted the names to Japanese

[aquagon]

Unfortunately, we have to leave it as in the NISA version.

[void]

That will be reliant on Cless. After all, he's our specialist on text menu stuff. And after I finish with Sasha's events, maybe I'll contact him to dump the text from the Talk Topics to begin with Jakuri's.

I took a look at this, and I managed to get something working for talk topics and heroine topics. I've put the details in my script thread.